The !6thhole at Basking Ridge CC in NJ is up hill and you cannot see the green from Ladies tees. I used 6 hybrid for 125 yards on 7/2/2017. I knew it went at the flag but hard to hold the green. 3 young men that were new members witnessed and stood by to explain that my tileist NXT ball hit 1 1/2 inches from flag and rolled in. So nice that they all stood by and clapped!!!